James May and Doug DeMuro discuss the 458 Speciale and Tesla

31 maí 2020
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James May and Doug DeMuro are back at it again, this time discussing James' cars. They happen to go from one extreme of his garage to the other - the coveted Ferrari 458 Speciale and the spanking new Tesla Model S.
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  • Rent an ICE car for the road trip. Same thing with trucks. For the odd times you might need a truck/van - rent one.

    E ME M3 dögum síðan
  • “How are you gonna sell a car during these times” fast forward 5 months, Daddy Doug has made Cars and Bids.

    FollowingRoadtsFollowingRoadts8 dögum síðan
  • Crazy to see this, how far Doug has come. Great to see his success.

    DeCarlo CallowayDeCarlo Calloway2 mánuðum síðan
  • say my name

    Phillip yanPhillip yan2 mánuðum síðan
  • I thought I was the only one who thought about replaceable batteries at stations. I thought about it a while ago as a way to mitigate range anxiety on highways, but ultimately wrote it off because the logistics of semi constantly having a different battery put in your car could be tricky at best

    Jay MacJay Mac2 mánuðum síðan
  • I could watch 5 hours of these 2 talking. More videos with Doug please.

    Henri BergeronHenri Bergeron2 mánuðum síðan
  • I agree with everything they said about Tesla’s and election cars in general. For this to really work they need to have some kind of solution that can have a driver back on the road in 5 to 10 minutes. As it stands right now electric cars are not really a viable road trip car, sure it can be done but it’s an inconvenience to do so. In my opinion a Tesla is a city car and not really viable for the mass market beyond that. The infrastructure also needs to be beefed up and standardized. The charging situation for Tesla is fair but it’s not for other brands and I believe it’s hampering the marketability of electric cars outside of Tesla. Tesla also kinda hurt the chances of innovation through competition be way of the brand being more important then the car it’s self. You can buy other electric cars but it’s not a Tesla it’s not cool

    CyberNut930CyberNut9302 mánuðum síðan
  • If Doug could have dialed back on the rocking back and fourth, that would have been great. Lol

    225Perfect225Perfect3 mánuðum síðan
  • I've no desire to attempt to examine the nasal skin pores on this Doug guy's face, so why does he keep trying to keep giving people the chance to do so?

    Mondoblasto0Mondoblasto03 mánuðum síðan
  • Upload the whole thing

    RedmonsterRedmonster3 mánuðum síðan
  • Perhaps an unpopular opinion. But to me, Doug is a legend. I’ve followed him since he was an idiot wearing flip flops trying to pick up women, to an idiot who wears two tee shirts religiously. Guy has taught me so much about cars and this is coming from someone who has loved automobiles since as young as I can remember.

    Vergina SimpsonVergina Simpson4 mánuðum síðan
  • This is part of the process with Teslas i guess, yes waiting for charging is an issue but they spend billions in research and development and the range is just increasing and the charge time decreasing, Yes I admit im a Tesla fanboy but it does irritate me when Tesla fans cant see the pros and cons, we have to be critical so the innovation continues, although I just dont see a future for hydrogen, its insanely hard to store, the infrastructure will have to be insane and the process of electrolysis is very inefficient. time will tell I guess.

    NihilistichrisNihilistichris4 mánuðum síðan
  • imagine describing a Ferrari as "mellow"

    MikeMike4 mánuðum síðan
  • You can tell these two get a long great, they share quite a few personality traits.

    Something Seems OffSomething Seems Off4 mánuðum síðan
  • 5:03 for Tesla

    Skylar ParksSkylar Parks4 mánuðum síðan
  • I think that penguins should have more rights in the artic.

    Nancy PelosiNancy Pelosi4 mánuðum síðan
  • This could have been a really interesting video but because of the terrible audio quality it's almost impossible to watch, what a shame.

    0580584 mánuðum síðan
  • "TTTTHHHHIIIISSS is James May. First im going to do a little introduction about James, then show all his unique quirks and features and then give him a Dougscore". Yeah i know im not original

    Roy LiberRoy Liber4 mánuðum síðan
  • Fun fact a mazda 2 has the same compression ratio as a 458 speciale

  • Doug is living the dream of any top gear viewer Actually talking to one of the hosts

    Dhan_man 07404Dhan_man 074045 mánuðum síðan
  • Please release the full conversation

    Simon AdamsSimon Adams5 mánuðum síðan
  • James May's whole personality is literally a meme

    Theodor JaglerTheodor Jagler5 mánuðum síðan
  • i present u the rightful heir to the petrol-head throne

    Georgi GeorgievGeorgi Georgiev5 mánuðum síðan
  • I could listen to these 2 for hours.

    Jonathan SefcikJonathan Sefcik5 mánuðum síðan
  • I’ve tested F12 and Speciale last week. You can check the sound here: isworlds.info/item/qqyefclrqajRgZA/v-deo

    Akcelerace VideoblogyAkcelerace Videoblogy5 mánuðum síðan
  • Doug has to review the DACIA SANDERO

    Afonso RibeiroAfonso Ribeiro5 mánuðum síðan
  • Doug would make a perfect top gear host.

    VioVsTheWorldVioVsTheWorld5 mánuðum síðan
  • James spot on about Tesla

    robert tarantinorobert tarantino5 mánuðum síðan
  • I feel like this is a preview that we will soon see Doug writing for Drivetribe

    James PowerJames Power5 mánuðum síðan
  • Doug fidgeting in excitement huh 🤣.....also where’s the full 999hour video, I need it all

    HoodBatmanHoodBatman5 mánuðum síðan
  • 0:18 how to sell a car? Use carsandbids.com! Dougs car selling website! (well no you can only sell if your in America or Canada lol

    yeet y?yeet y?5 mánuðum síðan
  • More james and doug please!

    Epicbutton12Epicbutton125 mánuðum síðan
  • Yeah, regarding electric vehicles, I feel like we're in an era that's analogous to the first 2000's for cellphones: they were starting to get cool, but everyone had a different charger and batteries and they were expensive to buy. Nowadays, the only company using a proprietor charger and not a standard is Apple, and that's just because they liked the fact that you had to spend a lot of money on their products. I think that for EVs the solution will be some sort of universal battery pack that can be switched on the fly at any station with a charged one by maybe some sort of automated procedure that eliminates the risk of human error (since damaged batteries are a nightmare, as Hammond may know)

    ph laveph lave5 mánuðum síðan
  • lol, James you should try my 1985 nissan/datsun sunny 1.5 gsl now that's old-fashioned

    H7KALH7KAL5 mánuðum síðan
  • two legends in one video

    ChrispyChrispy5 mánuðum síðan
  • Wether he’s talking about cars, toy trains, or LEGO’s. I love captain slow!

    gadgetmantwincitiesgadgetmantwincities5 mánuðum síðan
  • Marry him.

    PissMyAss LynchPissMyAss Lynch5 mánuðum síðan
  • I still can't believe james and doug talk with each other it seems so unreal. The perfect crossover

    PeterPeter5 mánuðum síðan
  • I am a Tesla fan boy for the reason that it’s more than just a car. It’s a philosophy of trying to clear our breathable air of harmful particulates that we breathe every day. It’s about sustainable energy, energy storage, getting power from the sun, Not just leaving a planet that is not worse off ( pollution) for our children. I do agree with you that even 15 minutes of charging is too long and I am hoping that the next generation of batteries will change that to a point where it will be much more compatible with current ICE vehicles. Keep on the entertaining videos! I’ve been a fan since the early days of, what was the name of that old show you were on? LOL

    Sergio MessinaSergio Messina5 mánuðum síðan
  • When they talk about Tesla fans, I feel like they’re not really car enthusiasts there just tech fans that like the idea of controlling the car with there smartphones. As in James may is an car enthusiast.

    George _13George _135 mánuðum síðan
  • is that James may or Lewis capaldi in the painting? lol

    Rob BlakeRob Blake5 mánuðum síðan
  • Doug leans in and out of the camera like a little kid in a candy store, he's so excited

    THEWHITEBOY503THEWHITEBOY5035 mánuðum síðan
  • Glad james brought up the only true viable replacement is hydrogen and its decades away from being efficient enough to mass produce. Electric cars you charge are simply a bandaid to the problem. They were around in the very early 1900s and while there has been great advancements since then it was deemed an unreliable source for transportation hence why we stuck with ICE

    smgs921smgs9215 mánuðum síðan
  • doug the type of guy who would give james may's tool names some nicknames

    Capt SlowCapt Slow5 mánuðum síðan
  • I like dougs energy and may is a certified don

    Phoeby RosePhoeby Rose5 mánuðum síðan
  • More chats like this please. No scripts, just car guys chatting. Perfect.

    tim shawtim shaw5 mánuðum síðan
  • Could we ask Doug to sit still next time, he is making me seasick :)

    Paul WalpolePaul Walpole5 mánuðum síðan
  • This is like when 2 parallel universes collide

    Brian WangBrian Wang6 mánuðum síðan
  • I mean, how can James not have a podcast? Get him a real mic and camera, it would be great.

    LukaLuka6 mánuðum síðan
  • We need more collabs!!! Love this

    Elliott GrossmanElliott Grossman6 mánuðum síðan
  • I truly think the mirai and hydrogen cell cars are the future... Tesla's as well as solar energy and the amount of waste it creates when the battery's and or solar cells need to be recycled and what it takes to make them is honestly worse for the environment considering how long people keep there vehicles relatively.

    Elliott GrossmanElliott Grossman6 mánuðum síðan
  • Doug Demuro and James May is like if peanut butter and chocolate were slightly on the spectrum

    Matthew SparrowMatthew Sparrow6 mánuðum síðan
  • I feel like It’s been years since I’ve seen James speak in such a chipper way.

    Dr.NippalDr.Nippal6 mánuðum síðan
  • This is like watch two dads having a chat. Its like yur listening but idk what they're saying

    its me sinaits me sina6 mánuðum síðan
  • too much logic for rabid tesla owners in this video.

    Robert CottrellRobert Cottrell6 mánuðum síðan
  • Is Doug DeMuro autistic? He sits their rocking away in front of the camera...

    Andrew RabbittAndrew Rabbitt6 mánuðum síðan

    Generously buttered ALCOGenerously buttered ALCO6 mánuðum síðan
  • future classic May

    Flamboyant OpossumFlamboyant Opossum6 mánuðum síðan
  • Excellent thank you! Way too short!

    joezephyrjoezephyr6 mánuðum síðan
  • Hoovie next! Have James roast him for being a pillock!

    Patrick CarnahanPatrick Carnahan6 mánuðum síðan
  • They're called plug-in hybrids. Use just electric motors and batteries for in town commuting, then a small gas or diesel engine for extended range.

    acronusacronus6 mánuðum síðan
  • I think the reason some people rant about anything negative or not completely positive said about Tesla is because they fear the following. 1. It might take longer for electric cars to become prevalent and improve if people think negatively about electric cars or Tesla in particular. 2. Electric cars may never gain enough momentum to catch up to or overtake petrol/gasoline powered cars if people think negatively about electric or Tesla in particular. 3. (I hope the fringe) Climate change is inherently bad and is something people caused/greatly contributed to and burning of fossil fuels majorly contributes to it, so electric cars need to be praised and adopted by everyone ASAP. People need to do their part by switching over now. Etc... Personally, I just see how Tesla (like SpaceX for that matter) looked at the state of the industry and went about producing products with features the others either don't have at all or don't have all together in one product for what is either very cost competitive or even cheaper than the competition. Example: The Cybertruck has sports car speed and handling as standard - in a truck (let that sink in), is virtually silent (hello hunters! ever considered the benefit of that?!), a structural body rather than a weak body on heavy frame, sleek and modern interior and exterior design (that I actually like), massive infotainment screen with quality cameras as standard, re-enforced windows as standard, very intelligent computer control between the engines' power to the wheels as standard, full length moonroof as standard, electric bed cover as standard, proper electrical outlet in the bed, a freaking built-in ramp as standard, etc. - all for less money than anything even close to that set of features from the likes of Ford, Chevy, Dodge, etc. There are features the Cybertruck will offer that the others have never offered and probably wouldn't if it weren't for Tesla.

    DMan 9971DMan 99716 mánuðum síðan
  • I have a EV. Everything you say is correct, range is an issue - for me, around 250 miles, charge time is an issue, need to plan and time stops. But.... I don't care. I love my I-Pace, best car I've driven by a huge margin. Luckily for me my commute in non-CV19 times is 10 miles/day. I never "need" to drive long distance, but can if I plan. If I want to drive to, eg. South of France (I haven't done, but would like to), I'd seriously consider hiring a ICE car for the trip. It would be free anyway, paid for by the fuel savings over the rest of the year.

    PaulSouthportPaulSouthport6 mánuðum síðan
  • I think range and charge speed for EVs will improve with time. We are still on the initial curve of the technology ramp. The Cybertruck is supposed to have 800Km of range, and the Roadster 1000Km. Maybe in 10 years time having 1000km of range in a regular family sedan isn't such a crazy idea.

    Mike HellerMike Heller6 mánuðum síðan
  • Funny how some people say that the grid can’t support EVs but yet think it’s okay to have even more exhaust spew into the atmosphere is just fine. Yes, the grid can be supplied by fossil fuels but they are being replaced and are more efficient going through a power plant than individual gas cars.

    Sean ZSean Z6 mánuðum síðan
  • Two of my favorite car people in the world. This video couldn't get any better except if maybe Richard Hammond and Jeremy Clarkson were there.

    Jayson TaylorJayson Taylor6 mánuðum síðan
  • Funny how some people complain that a Tesla takes too long to charge when on long distance but are okay with going to the gas station much more often throughout the year. I bet you waste more time at gas stations per year than I do waiting for a Tesla to charge on an annual basis.

    Sean ZSean Z6 mánuðum síðan
  • Would happily listen to a 2 hour livestream of this...just saying...

    Apothecary TerryApothecary Terry6 mánuðum síðan
  • What do you if you run out of power on the road ?????

    philip streechonphilip streechon6 mánuðum síðan
  • I've driven my Tesla on trips over 1000 miles. No issues about waiting. Stop for lunch? Charge. Bathroom break? Charge. Get a coffee? Charge. Absolutely no big deal or anxieties about doing long distances, particularly in California.

    Lewis deSotoLewis deSoto6 mánuðum síðan
  • Dougs reviews are epic

    rooster boosterrooster booster6 mánuðum síðan
  • May how about a mobile phone road review of you favorite cars that you own.

    Allen NugentAllen Nugent6 mánuðum síðan
  • Never thought I'd see this

    PJ AdamsonPJ Adamson6 mánuðum síðan
  • If I owned a Tesla S I would have to supercharge it once a year. And I live in the American west and like to camp.

    Mark BrandMark Brand6 mánuðum síðan
  • No more Doug...please spare us all....

    J. RomineJ. Romine6 mánuðum síðan
  • I'm a simple man. I see doug I click the video

    Saul ToroSaul Toro6 mánuðum síðan
  • Get Doug to collaborate with Jeremy and Richard in videos too and car youtube will have peaked

    Nate LavNate Lav6 mánuðum síðan
  • One word: B-R-I-L-L-I-A-N-T

    Joseph HollandaJoseph Hollanda6 mánuðum síðan
  • Someone needs to teach Doug how to use a webcam. he still gets way too close. Somehow I'm not surprised though, he's that type of guy...

    Soundtallica in ChainsSoundtallica in Chains6 mánuðum síðan
  • I don't want to be on the Tesla fanatic side, but here's a Tesla battery swapping station from 2013 that's faster than refuelling: isworlds.info/item/rZaPZdyElaXTepA/v-deo They trialed a few stations, but it didn't take off because it was more expensive than waiting at a supercharger so Tesla cancelled the project. Looks like user feedback is different to James May's experience.

    Slava KozlovskiiSlava Kozlovskii6 mánuðum síðan
  • Who's here only because James May is a part of the video ? Finally some credibility !

    Spence1175Spence11756 mánuðum síðan
  • Doug look like innocent student But want to talk about quick and feature of that portrait.

    akacyrus Lwinakacyrus Lwin6 mánuðum síðan
  • 1:05 Doug went full Irish mode

    PilePile6 mánuðum síðan
  • i want james talking with engineering explained because they would probably talk about 1 engine for hours

    Septian ErnantoSeptian Ernanto6 mánuðum síðan
  • Imagine having the money and cars to talk the way these guys do. someday....

    JoshTuaJoshTua6 mánuðum síðan
  • Is this a crossover episode?

    Radi0he4d1Radi0he4d16 mánuðum síðan
  • who the heck is doug demuro

    cocopufercocopufer6 mánuðum síðan
  • My two favorite car people together (mind blown)

    Luke McLeavyLuke McLeavy6 mánuðum síðan
  • On the Tesla debate, the issue for me is infrastructure scale. If I need petrol they may have 10 pumps and a fill takes 5 minutes, but I still have to queue. If a large part of the population used electrics that take 15-20 minutes (at least) you would need maybe 40 charge points

    Tim HarrisonTim Harrison6 mánuðum síðan
    • But you’ve got to account for the fact the only road trippers are charging. Literally 90% of. My fill ups are just regular fillups. And would therefore occur at home at night.

      Mark BrandMark Brand6 mánuðum síðan
  • That was fun. Both of these people are intelligent and witt y and fun to listen to. Thanks Doug!

    notyer mamanotyer mama6 mánuðum síðan
  • What a fun and enjoyable discussion between two regarded icons of automotive media/journalism. So fun to watch. Well done, gents! Please post more content as you both present the viewpoints we want to view and learn. More, please!

    Alex HayAlex Hay6 mánuðum síðan
  • Usually on our longer trips, we just stop at places that have a view, take pictures sometimes dance and then drive off. We barely stop at fuel station unless we have to refuel

    SouheibSouheib6 mánuðum síðan
  • I will always upvote these 2.

    Mike BroomMike Broom6 mánuðum síðan
  • Clarkson may roast the 458 Speciale when he awarded the 488 Pista as his best supercar of 2019, but sorry Clarkson - I would easily take the 458 Speciale in a heartbeat. Definitely the last ever naturally aspirated Ferrari V8 engine. I can absolutely guarantee to see the 458 Speciale selling for a much higher price than the 488 Pista in the used market corner.

    Farhan Ahmad TajuddinFarhan Ahmad Tajuddin6 mánuðum síðan
  • Doug keeps talking over James - quite annoying.

    grandmaster961grandmaster9616 mánuðum síðan
  • 🤘🖖

    Миша МитинМиша Митин6 mánuðum síðan
  • Wow, two of my favorite automotive personas talking about my car, kind of wild but I do want to clear one thing up. I should state, I'm not a Tesla evangelist at all, I am very critical on a lot of the Tesla ownership experience but that is for another time. I have a P90DL and I've done about 13,000 miles now. Approximately half of those were from road trips. Yes, supercharging will take longer than filling up a petrol car. Whether or not the extra time added to your trip is worth it to you will depend on how much you value your time. For most Model S owners, supercharging is free, and if I'm not in a huge rush, I would gladly road trip for free at the expense of a bit of extra time. Even if you do not have free supercharging, its still much cheaper to drive electric, so you really need to decide what you value more, your time or your money. Even if you only have an electric car, the amount of money you save yearly on gas and oil changes (not to mention other wearable items like brakes, belts, etc) will more than offset the cost of a rental car a couple times a year when you absolutely must travel 250+ miles and you just cannot afford to stop for anything longer than a bathroom break. Yes, that is a need that exists for many, and should I find myself without access to a gas car and have that need, I would 100% rent a petrol car to do so. If this is a need you have often, then electric is obviously not for you, but for the vast majority of people, this is not going to be an issue.

    Leo FlimanLeo Fliman6 mánuðum síðan
    • @Mark Brand You'd have to really be hypermiling in perfect conditions to get 400 miles out of even the newest long range model S. Couple things to consider is battery degradation, temperature, and wind. My car had an EPA range of 270 miles when it was new, but when it had about 55,000 miles on it, I could really only expect 250 miles under ideal conditions, but the reality is it could be anywhere from 130 to 210 miles in the real world, based on the conditions. The absolute longest stretch I've ever done without charging was 193 miles, and the car didn't even recommend I attempt it without programming a stop but I drafted some trucks along the way to eek out that distance. I had about 15 spare miles left in the battery according to the car. You also need to remember that you might be able to leave on your journey at 100% state of charge, but using a supercharge to return to 100% from near empty will take well over an hour, probably several hours. It will charge very quickly when the battery is warm and at a low state of charge, something like 2.5% a minute or even faster, but once your battery starts getting to 60% or so, that number starts to fall off considerably. Maybe 1% a minute. Then by the time you're north of 80% the charge rate is pitifully slow. That last 20% will likely take 45 minutes to charge. This isn't too much of a problem on like a 250 mile drive, drive about 160 miles or so, youd have maybe 15% battery left. Charge it up for 25 minutes until you're at about 65%, and then finish your drive. But once you start having to chain together stops to charge, the amount of added time to your trip starts to really add up. A 320 mile drive in my car in the winter meant I had to stop twice adding almost an hour to my drive.

      Leo FlimanLeo Fliman6 mánuðum síðan
    • The reality is an S goes 400 miles. You are GOING TO STOP FOR A MEAL during that time. That’s what people don’t get. And most people simply don’t drive that far.

      Mark BrandMark Brand6 mánuðum síðan
  • James Mays picture behind him

    Wasif AnowarWasif Anowar6 mánuðum síðan
  • I think we have a replacement for the old TG crew! Doug Demuro, Matt Watson, _______ ?

    Ashan KumarasingheAshan Kumarasinghe6 mánuðum síðan
  • Re. Tesla and EVs in general. An issue is that many people (including these two, apparently) make a 1:1 comparison with what they know and love. To replace the fossil cars they want all the benefits and none of the downsides. Very rarely do you get that in a new technology. I did swap my Nokia for an iPhone, even though the former's battery lasted almost a week. Smartphones today are not much better, but we're now accustomed to charging at least every night. Would it be nice to DC fast charge an EV in 5 mins instead of 20-30? Sure! Can you live with the current FDC charging times? Unless you commute more than 200 miles per day and have the possibility for a charger at home, you probably can. Sure you'd be waiting around some times, but you'll live. The advantages of EVs are smoother and quieter ride, instant torque, home "refueling" and cheaper total cost. Oh yeah, and that environment thing noone apparently cares about.

    Jens Kristian JensenJens Kristian Jensen6 mánuðum síðan