Is the BMW M235i Gran Coupé better than a Golf R?

22 feb 2020
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The BMW M235i isn’t like other fast Beemers - it’s not rear-wheel drive and it has a four-cylinder engine instead of a soulful six. But is it any good, and could it tempt you away from a Golf R? We sent Tim to Portugal to find out.
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  • Hey everyone - I've started a new channel doing car reviews for DriveTribe. Give us a subscribe for more sarcastic dogging car content:

    Tim Rodie Drives StuffTim Rodie Drives Stuff4 mánuðum síðan
  • Complain about the grill being too big yet its still smaller than the grill on any audi or mercedes.

    lee macdonaldlee macdonald4 mánuðum síðan
  • I would always chose golf R

    ER SI ER 5ER SI ER 56 mánuðum síðan
  • What were they thinking !!!??? ... and yes, it looks like a Kia

    cavalencavalen6 mánuðum síðan
  • Looks a bit like a Ford.

    Dan BlinkDan Blink6 mánuðum síðan
  • As a former E90 335 MxSport owner, I hate the way this car looks. I hate how they beshitted the suspension and ruined the handling. I’m glad I had the BMW I had when I had it because they quit making cars like that.

    Tv 5150Tv 51507 mánuðum síðan
  • Literal garbage

    GhettoMistGhettoMist7 mánuðum síðan
  • BMW looks like a Kia.

    Huw JonesHuw Jones7 mánuðum síðan
  • will this become good looking car like E60 5 series did after 10 years? Or will it slide into oblivion because it has nothing to offer apart from nice interior?

    MCK RidesMCK Rides7 mánuðum síðan
  • Looks terrible they ruined the 2 series which was one of the best looking models

    :30 UwU:30 UwU7 mánuðum síðan
  • I still don't understand why BMW keeps calling saloon/sedan models Gran Coupé when they just aren't. It's like calling a station wagon a convertible. BMW isn't the only one doing this in marketing the cars over the years but it is the only one i can think of at this time that have an actual badge on the car saying "Coupé " when it's clearly not.

    BasBas8 mánuðum síðan
  • Okay, take this as you will but I drove this car. This is coming from me, who has a 2018 M3 competition as well so keep that in mind. This car.... is fucking fun. It drives and feels like a BMW in every single way The acceleration is VERY similar to an M2. I used a Draggy tracker, 0-60 is sub 4.5 every time. With launch control 4.38. I got it to 140... and it got there quick. The overboost is incredible and the exhaust is awesome. This car is a 4-cyl... yes, FWD biased... yes. Can you tell? Not at all. I feel like this presenter really didn’t get the point across, was he entertaining? Of course. But he went into it thinking it was shit and you can tell so he’s extremely biased. Nothing against him, I understand why he’s shitting on it, because everyone else is. Now, here’s why I bought it. This car’s engine is bullet proof, same exact setup as the Supra/Z4 M40i with 2 cylinders chopped off. The handling is balls to the wall fun. Got some nice tire squeal and it held its ground. Stock, it’s faster than the S3 (BMW sandbagged their 0-60 heavily). 0-100 faster than the CLA 43. Also, this car is faster than the E92 M3 stock for stock.... and it has half the cylinders. Here’s what I’m going to do, down-pipe, cat-delete, induction performance tune. I will be over 400hp to the wheels on just a 4 cylinder. Maybe, just maybe I might do full bolt-on just so I can see the look on the RS3 owner’s face. Aesthetically, not the best BMW’s done but I can assure you it looks much, much better in person. The ass end looks awesome especially the nighttime lights make the car pop. Interior, red m-performance buckets look awesome with the black leather accents. At night the ambient 3D lighting looks fucking awesome. iDrive 7 with Gesture control and wireless charging? The newest Harmon Kardon surround sound? Yup. Blind spot, frontal collision, pedestrian, lane departures warnings with steering brake intervention as standard as well (in US). Don’t knock it till you try it, I’m glad I did and my M3 and m235i look good together.

    StreetSpeedStreetSpeed8 mánuðum síðan
  • Clarkson son's approved.

    Rick HunterRick Hunter8 mánuðum síðan
  • For 36K I'll buy a '03/4/5 Subaru WRX STI and pump it up to 600pk. And still save a lot of money.

    Scooby DooScooby Doo8 mánuðum síðan
  • Oh that hideous back end... Is literally a pain in your back side...🤮

    teja mohanteja mohan8 mánuðum síðan
  • BMW had lost completly his core business and had lost the reason why is on the market. The RWD and the "driving pleasure" Sorry BMW, but this car it's absolutely ugly on every point of view ... every ...bye bye by Italy!

    Elio S.Elio S.8 mánuðum síðan
  • BMW is losing it. New designs are absolutely horrendous. If it’s not broken don’t fix it dumbasses!!!!

    Sean LSean L8 mánuðum síðan
  • NO ! Ugly as hell I’ll never buy another BMW ! I’ve never had another car that was completely worthless after 100,000 miles. MSRP 70 K ! how they are still in business Is a mystery to me !?

    Truth Or consequencesTruth Or consequences8 mánuðum síðan
  • BMW making this sort of stuff is like being bald and having all your hair in your face. It's just the wrong way round.

    Trent TrevorrowTrent Trevorrow8 mánuðum síðan
  • Wow better waste my money on broken smg drivetrain than this shit spawn

    A. DA. D8 mánuðum síðan
  • Thats a Kia

    chesterdrum1chesterdrum18 mánuðum síðan
  • Few complaints with a few terms used in this review,coupe,hot hatch, the fact that it is not either I guess does not matter lmao it's a dam sedan,its not a coupé or a hot hatch.

    icemanbtlr25icemanbtlr258 mánuðum síðan
  • Yes, but Its not a hatch :(

    Andrew anonAndrew anon8 mánuðum síðan
  • BMW reused the mini platform for this.

    abdul jilaniabdul jilani8 mánuðum síðan
  • Who the fuq is this guy

    Phillip ScottPhillip Scott8 mánuðum síðan
  • What happened to the old flair and character of BMW? Its gotten itself lost in translation, that's what...

    Deeds IggyDeeds Iggy8 mánuðum síðan
  • You know what...? It resembles my 2014 Ford Focus sedan... Though mine looks better.

    Deeds IggyDeeds Iggy8 mánuðum síðan
  • Is it weird that I think it looks like a Kia?

    Francis BawasantaFrancis Bawasanta8 mánuðum síðan
  • Its ugly, and has quite a small engine(my car has a Audi 2.0T but is brillant but costs less than that car) it also doesn't give me the M feeling whenever I see any part of it. Would rather have a golf R any day of the week. Also Tim is amazing thank you for hiring him drive tribe really enjoyed his reviews and videos

    Samael BzdokSamael Bzdok8 mánuðum síðan
  • It’s just a mini clubman made fugly

    Jontae4288Jontae42888 mánuðum síðan
  • Finally an honest review, very good review

    The Rookie MistakeThe Rookie Mistake8 mánuðum síðan
  • No

    The Rookie MistakeThe Rookie Mistake8 mánuðum síðan
  • I was a bit disappointed to find out that it wasn't a hatchback

    Noa JagodićNoa Jagodić8 mánuðum síðan
  • No

    Audi RSAudi RS8 mánuðum síðan
  • That has to be the worst looking bmw of all time, it looks like something hyundai designed then binned.

    Steven MacdonaldSteven Macdonald8 mánuðum síðan
  • Is the BMW M235i Gran Coupe better than a Civic Type R? LOL

    Kean Keong KokKean Keong Kok8 mánuðum síðan
  • Tbh, the front is looks like a KIA bumper😂😂Maybe BMW and KIA working together now😂

    LoRD ZLoRD Z8 mánuðum síðan
  • Honestly how could they screw up the new model to such an extent.

    TheGreatOneGuyTheGreatOneGuy8 mánuðum síðan
  • Looks like a gaping frog

    Gamer BoyGamer Boy8 mánuðum síðan
  • Tbh it just looks kinda like one of those cars you see in free mobile car games... just a ripoff of all the recent trends in car design, but all just hammered together senselessly

    Lnhrt but DifferentLnhrt but Different8 mánuðum síðan
  • The rear is ugly as sin

    FixToothFixTooth8 mánuðum síðan
  • As a wise Texan man said Money pit!

    StianofpStianofp8 mánuðum síðan

    R2 D2R2 D28 mánuðum síðan
  • Nice KIA i30N Copy, which is a better car..

    Gus JohnsonGus Johnson8 mánuðum síðan
  • When looking at it from the side, I immediately thought of a late model Chevrolet Cruze here in the states. These gran coupe cars coming from BMW and MBZ lately look like crap. My favorite BMW still is and will be the 1990s 8-series.

    James ClackJames Clack8 mánuðum síðan
  • I like this guy

    Lee WhiteLee White8 mánuðum síðan
  • Very Kia esque looks, guess they’re moving toward a more mass market with their performance biased cars

    Neil BownessNeil Bowness8 mánuðum síðan
  • If you like how it looks and drives buy it. Motor journalistic insight at its finest 🤣

    L ML M8 mánuðum síðan
  • This car is no match for the Golf R's proportions and value.

    Leo LiuLeo Liu8 mánuðum síðan
  • This guy is great. Honest review with a pinch of humor. Perfect

    Miguel BritoMiguel Brito8 mánuðum síðan
  • All your arguments are invalid. It is a sedan. WTF is this Gran Coupe garbage.

    Ivan BigelowIvan Bigelow8 mánuðum síðan
  • Why the KIA grill?

    Alias HSWAlias HSW8 mánuðum síðan
  • 4WD with... FRONT BIAS? in a BMW????? is that for real?!

    Diogo VieiraDiogo Vieira8 mánuðum síðan
  • looks like a kia

    Juan BeduralJuan Bedural8 mánuðum síðan
  • Good review. It looks remarkably like a Kia cerato sedan. Does it come with a 7 year warranty and free servicing yet?

    Raymond & TraceyRaymond & Tracey8 mánuðum síðan
  • Looks like a modern Kia.

    Wudruff WildcardWudruff Wildcard8 mánuðum síðan
  • That looks ugly like some Hyundai

    Thiago LopesThiago Lopes8 mánuðum síðan
  • Honestly the rear wheel looked bigger to me...

    Cody MachadoCody Machado8 mánuðum síðan
  • 240i would run rings around it

    Natalie FurnissNatalie Furniss8 mánuðum síðan
  • I love this guy’s review style and sense of humour:)

    Chris HoggettChris Hoggett8 mánuðum síðan
  • I like it A3 has it though. But alot better than the merc Aclass saloon.

    Stuff&ThingsStuff&Things8 mánuðum síðan
  • looks like fkn Kia Stinger?

    Jon McDonaldJon McDonald8 mánuðum síðan
  • I believe the new grill is a consequence of bmw being popular in china, and big is apparently their thing

    ZgreduZgredu8 mánuðum síðan
  • Hideous

    ikmal syafiqikmal syafiq8 mánuðum síðan
  • Hideous

    ikmal syafiqikmal syafiq8 mánuðum síðan
  • This from the company that 10 years ago made the 1M....oh dear

    Mark RhodenMark Rhoden8 mánuðum síðan
  • It's just so incredibly ugly... :/

    Nile9063Nile90638 mánuðum síðan
  • BMW and Audi are doing the A-class a load of favours with their latest designs, they’re hideous

    IanmundoIanmundo8 mánuðum síðan
  • Of course it s better than stupid golf, every car is, ok, every car except dacia sandero and the up!

    Ured za hlađenje muda i stezanje remenaUred za hlađenje muda i stezanje remena8 mánuðum síðan
  • Tim’s diplomatic comments about the looks don’t convince me, it’s still just plain hideous. Thumbs up for the presenter though, you’re very good at reviewing cars!

    Vi VaRoVi VaRo8 mánuðum síðan
  • Is it a big 1series or small 3series

    Leon PalmerLeon Palmer8 mánuðum síðan
  • bruuuh I dont even care about that audi rivalling bmw, portuguese doggin van had me

    Arven TahtyanArven Tahtyan8 mánuðum síðan
  • Love this guy, hope his the new generation of legendary car presenters.

    RodutchiRodutchi8 mánuðum síðan
    • I hope so too, thank you

      Tim Rodie Drives StuffTim Rodie Drives Stuff4 mánuðum síðan
  • Amusing, informative and entertaining

    Eliot Salandy BrownEliot Salandy Brown8 mánuðum síðan
  • you can like it or not, but it's the first time a BMW M_ car is so questioned.

    61percentodicarica61percentodicarica8 mánuðum síðan
  • It's like a cross between a WRX and a bmw 1 series

    Andrew VaillantAndrew Vaillant8 mánuðum síðan
  • If that was coming down the road. I'd think at first glance it was a Hyundai..with that grill

    S LmontS Lmont8 mánuðum síðan
  • Sad

    FeeFee8 mánuðum síðan
  • Tim is good. I liked his mild way of presenting. I am a Chinese translator in the "unreliable lab" which is the translation group officially collaborate with DRIVETRIBE to deliver contents into China. I've just done translation of Tim's Honda e review and I would never expect that I would actually want one after.

    Michael wuMichael wu8 mánuðum síðan
  • Dont copy carwow stick of truth! Please can we get more from this guy

    PaintGangLTDPaintGangLTD8 mánuðum síðan
  • looks like a KIA

    aneal Srikantaneal Srikant8 mánuðum síðan
  • Its a Hyundai-Kia. BMW have gone mad.

    itaiitai8 mánuðum síðan
  • prius rear and kia front, marvelous.

    cloud ixcloud ix8 mánuðum síðan
  • Jesus I though it's a new Kia when I saw it!

    Alex PetrenkoAlex Petrenko8 mánuðum síðan
  • anything is better than a vw

    BLY 447BLY 4479 mánuðum síðan
  • People who say it looks like Kia, It’s the other way around. Hyundai group poached BMW, Audi, Bentley employees, and has been copying german car makers, now all their cars are like budget Chinese knock offs of originals

    Raghu VeerRaghu Veer9 mánuðum síðan
  • Who the hell is going to buy one of these ugly monstrosities?

    JBJB9 mánuðum síðan
  • Absolutely destroyed the 2 series look. All the G series design (excluding 8 series) looks hideous. Mercedes is gg to sell a lot of cla n cla 45 even if it doesnt drive as well. Sad to say. Definitely keeping my F series beemer.

    Alan PhuaAlan Phua9 mánuðum síðan
  • The BMW looks terrible from every angle :O

    panzachpanzach9 mánuðum síðan
  • Seems BMW is chasing after Audi now. Not doing very well at it.

    Dave RolandoDave Rolando9 mánuðum síðan
  • one of the uglier BMW designs. that back screams of japanese econo box

    lyin4rmulyin4rmu9 mánuðum síðan
  • i was worried comments wouldnt like tim but all seems good

    JBOY420JBOY4209 mánuðum síðan
  • Who is this hipster Clarkson wannabe reviewing the new Kia?

    AI EnyoAI Enyo9 mánuðum síðan
  • Whaaat, How can it not be rwd with that bmw badge....the whole point of a bmw it to comfortably smile well wagging the tale sideways in a happy little power slide in the rain or snow. Is it a defective model?

    Scott NemethScott Nemeth9 mánuðum síðan
  • It should be deemed a sedan, not a coupe. I dont care if has a sloping rear, it resembles a sedan and coupe's should have 2 doors only, the exception the RX8 with rear suicisde doors

    Liam MurphyLiam Murphy9 mánuðum síðan
  • Looks like a Kea grill

    rudi van aarderudi van aarde9 mánuðum síðan
  • In person, the wheels look too damn small.

    Whose Your ChefWhose Your Chef9 mánuðum síðan
  • The golf is not out yet... Maybe you compare this brand new car with an 8 y old golf...?

    Robin MarplesRobin Marples9 mánuðum síðan
  • This GUY is much better then the other short haired guy! I dont like the other one...

    prity777prity7779 mánuðum síðan
  • This should be compared to the Audi S3 sedan/saloon. And m135i is compared to Golf R and Audi S3 Sportback or even Mercedes A35

    Darko SolaDarko Sola9 mánuðum síðan